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Conflict & disaster

[2327] No to foreign military intervention in Libya

There is a civil war in Libya and the one that started it is Muammar Gaddafi. He is a vicious man. The way he violently handled peaceful protests against his government justifies the rebellion that is underway in the country. Between the Gaddafi government and the rebels along with the protesters, I find it impossible not to support the rebellion morally. Despite that, I cannot support any foreign military intervention that sides with the rebellion.

The talk of military intervention gained prominence when there was suggestion to impose a no-fly zone in Libya. The fact that two US warships are approaching the waters off Libya heightens the possibility of US intervention in Libya.[1] It is a relief when US Defense Secretary Robert Gates poured cold water on the suggestion.[2]

At the risk of sounding sadistic, I do not support intervention because I like to see how the civil war will play out in the end. If the rebels and protesters won the war eventually, then it would be relatively easy to justify the new government arising from the popular rebellion. The new government would be formed popularly and organically.

Any foreign military intervention will rob some legitimacy from the new government. Accusation of US imperialism will fly, possibly making the rebellion less popular inside and outside of Libya. Furthermore, in times when the whole Arab world appears to move forward towards a more democratic environment, such external intervention is unhelpful.

Meanwhile, Gaddafi does have some support in Libya, however deluded he is about the level of support he has. There are still people fighting for him. These supporters would definitely try to justify Gaddafi’s so far outrageous claim of foreign intervention in Libya. Having an actual military intervention will hand Gaddafi and his supporters some undeserved moral victory.

Besides, the rebels themselves have stated that they do not want foreign government to intervene.[3]

If the rebels loses, then the Gaddafi government will further lose its legitimacy because the rebellion is seen by many as a popular movement.

And then, there is another issue which I have raised earlier: we cannot fight tyranny everywhere. If intervention is justified in Libya, what about other protests suppressed violently in other part of the world? Myanmar? Iran?

I do not even support any United Nations or any other organization’s peacekeeping mission in Libya, given the current situation. The rebels seem to be winning. An international peacekeeping force by the United Nations would halt progress made by the rebels and protesters, preventing or at least prolonging possible victory that would remove Gaddafi from power and along with it, hopefully his arguably socialistic policies. I do not want any intervention that would increase the likelihood of Gaddafi staying in power. I would support a peacekeeping mission only if Gaddafi has the upper hand.

Until then, I insist all we can do — apart from humanitarian aid — is sit, watch and hope for the best in the Libyan rebels and protesters.

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[1] — WASHINGTON — A US warship with hundreds of Marines on board headed towards Libya on Tuesday, defense officials said, as US and European allies sought to pile pressure on embattled leader Moamer Khadafi. [US warship headed to Libya: officials. AFP. March 2 2011]

[2] — Military options, such as imposing a no-fly zone to prevent attacks on regime opponents, have consequences that need to be considered carefully, Gates said. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization hasn’t decided on any specific steps. [US signals caution about Libya military intervention. Lachlan Carmichael. AFP. March 3 2011]

[3] — Ghoga said the newly formed council was not contacting foreign governments and did not want them to intervene. [US signals caution about Libya military intervention. Al Jazeera. February 27 2011]

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Events Liberty Politics & government

[2050] Of how many are protesting against ISA, on the ground?

And so, Kuala Lumpur is again the center of a struggle for liberty.

Estimating the number of protesters against ISA is hard but Twitter, specifically from the accounts of The Edge and The Malaysian Insider may be helpful.

The Malaysian Insider reports that there are about 5,000 protesters in Sogo area while another more or less 5,000 gathered near Masjid Negara.[1]

The Edge reports that 1,000 individuals are in Dang Wangi.[2]

Others estimate another 1,000 persons are in Masjid Jamek.

If these numbers are reliable, that makes 12,000 protesters at around 15:00 hours Malaysian time, making it much smaller than Bersih, but large nonetheless by Malaysian standard.

These numbers unfortunately are hard to be aggregated because these sources come from different time points. Crowds in one place may have traveled from one point to another, making double counting a risk. Or, even underestimating because these numbers may swell after time of reporting.

In any case, what about the pro-ISA number? Unknown and likely insignificant.

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[1] — ISA – Anti-ISA protesters from Sogo number some 5,000, another 5,000 from National Mosque. [The Malaysian Insider. Twitter. August 1 2009]

[2] — Crowd of more than a thousand at Dang Wangi start moving behind Unit Amal human shield, chants “Reformasi”. No police yet. [The Edge. Twitter. August 1 2009]

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p/s — as the dust settled, better estimation. It is over 20,000:

News services estimated that the rally on Saturday, which was broken up by thousands of police officers using tear gas and water cannons, drew about 20,000 protesters, making it the largest demonstration in two years. [Malaysia Cracks Down on Protests. Thomas Fuller. New York Times. August 2 2009]

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Activism Liberty

[1972] Of the Brickfields affairs

Probably, nobody knew if Wong Chin Huat was actually locked up in Brickfields police district headquarters but that did not turn people off. Why Brickfields was a mystery of the day. I joked to a friend that it could have been that somebody threw a dice and decided which poor officers would have to suffer a candlelight vigil. Another question is, who was the dice thrower?

One thing was certain. For some people, it did not matter. What mattered was that Wong Chin Huat should be freed.

Over 50 people (I would not be surprised if the number reached 100) including journalists showed up eventually although at first, there were few people.

What do you expect anyway? It was supposed to start at 21:00 Malaysian time. No. That does not refer to UTC+8 mind you.

Those that showed up early got the honor of being arrested. Altogether nine of them all in the first round of arrest. Merely showing up probably did not cause their arrest; lighting a candle did that. Candles were also the reason why a second group endured arrest. Included in the second group was MP for Serdang. In total, 14 individuals were, well, placed under the care of the Malaysian Royal Police.

The way the arrest was conducted was funny in a sense. An officer, probably a high ranking officer because he brought with him a stick with white tip, did shout a warning. He said if people do not disperse by the count of 3, the police will arrest everybody.

He did count, only too fast. 1… 3. Barely a second passed before somebody could register, “oh, maybe it is time to leave”. Neurons do not quite work at light speed, I suppose.

A lawyer did come later and went in to discuss with the police about the first arrest. Once done, the lawyer answered questions from reporters. According to him, the police justified the arrest as a mean to discourage an even larger crowd from gathering in front of the police station.

Also interesting was that the police did not allow the lawyer to meet the detainees. They reasoned that the detainees did not specifically request for a lawyer. This is probably an important point: if you ever get arrested by the police, make it clear to them that you want to speak to a legal counsel.

It was newsworthy enough that Malaysiakini published the whole thing on their website.[1] It was newsworthy because it could be a precursor to what will happen tomorrow.

That scare tactics could have worked, if the arrest did not happen too early. Not too many people were there in the first place and many came late.

The same tactic was successful the second time. The police threatened to arrest anybody that was still standing in front of the station, unless the crowd dispersed by the count of 10. Being the chickenshits that these peaceful protesters are (me included), we dispersed. But like in any small peaceful protest or vigil or call it whatever you want that I have been to, crowd re-gathered nearby.

There was a game of cat-and-mouse for a time but nothing untoward really happened after that. No more arrest. And after all that, all were released before midnight.

If anything, this little protest will prove tame. Tomorrow in Ipoh will be another story.

In any case, it will be unfair to equate the cause of Brickfields’ little party with the cause of Ipoh’s party, which is expected to be massive . I do still take defecting as a right. It is not immoral.

Nevertheless, after all been said and done, politically, I would like to see an election in Perak. That would tie up a lot of loose end and allow us to move forward.

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[1] — The police tonight arrested 14 people who had gathered at the Brickfields police station in support of activist Wong Chin Huat, but they were all released hours later. [Vigil: Police detain 14, all freed hours later. Wong Teck Chi . Malaysiakini. May 7 2009]