{"id":4867,"date":"2009-08-01T17:10:10","date_gmt":"2009-08-01T07:10:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/maddruid.com\/?p=4867"},"modified":"2009-08-03T09:24:07","modified_gmt":"2009-08-02T23:24:07","slug":"2050-of-how-many-are-protesting-against-isa-on-the-ground","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maddruid.com\/?p=4867","title":{"rendered":"[2050] Of how many are protesting against ISA, on the ground?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>And so, Kuala Lumpur is again the center of a struggle for liberty.<\/p>\n<p>Estimating the number of protesters against ISA is hard but Twitter, specifically from the accounts of <em>The Edge<\/em> and <em>The Malaysian Insider<\/em> may be helpful.<\/p>\n<p><em>The Malaysian Insider<\/em> reports that there are about 5,000 protesters in Sogo area while another more or less 5,000 gathered near Masjid Negara.<a href=\"#2090note1\"><sup><small>[1]<\/small><\/sup><\/a><a name=\"2090noteback1\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>The Edge<\/em> reports that 1,000 individuals are in Dang Wangi.<a href=\"#2090note2\"><sup><small>[2]<\/small><\/sup><\/a><a name=\"2090noteback2\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Others estimate another 1,000 persons are in Masjid Jamek.<\/p>\n<p>If these numbers are reliable, that makes 12,000 protesters at around 15:00 hours Malaysian time, making it much smaller than <a href=\"https:\/\/maddruid.com\/?p=1446\" target=\"_self\">Bersih<\/a>, but large nonetheless by Malaysian standard.<\/p>\n<p>These numbers unfortunately are hard to be aggregated because these sources come from different time points. Crowds in one place may have traveled from one point to another, making double counting a risk. Or, even underestimating because these numbers may swell after time of reporting.<\/p>\n<p>In any case, what about the pro-ISA number? Unknown and likely insignificant.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.maddruid.com\/Graphics\/reusable\/the__earthinc.png?w=580\" alt=\"Mohd Hafiz Noor Shams. Some rights reserved\" \/> <img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.maddruid.com\/Graphics\/reusable\/the__earthinc.png?w=580\" alt=\"Mohd Hafiz Noor Shams. Some rights reserved\" \/> <img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.maddruid.com\/Graphics\/reusable\/the__earthinc.png?w=580\" alt=\"Mohd Hafiz Noor Shams. Some rights reserved\" \/><\/p>\n<p><small><a href=\"#2090noteback1\"><sup>[1]<\/sup><\/a><a name=\"2090note1\"><\/a> \u2014 ISA &#8211; Anti-ISA protesters from Sogo number some 5,000, another 5,000 from National Mosque. [<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/insider_latest\/status\/3066572839\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Malaysian Insider<\/em><\/a>. Twitter. August 1 2009]<\/small><\/p>\n<p><small><a href=\"#2090noteback2\"><sup>[2]<\/sup><\/a><a name=\"2090note2\"><\/a> \u2014 Crowd of more than a thousand at Dang Wangi start moving behind Unit Amal human shield, chants &#8220;Reformasi&#8221;. No police yet. [<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/edgemy\/status\/3066566805\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Edge<\/em><\/a>. Twitter. August 1 2009]<\/small><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.maddruid.com\/Graphics\/reusable\/the__earthinc.png?w=580\" alt=\"Mohd Hafiz Noor Shams. Some rights reserved\" \/> <img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.maddruid.com\/Graphics\/reusable\/the__earthinc.png?w=580\" alt=\"Mohd Hafiz Noor Shams. Some rights reserved\" \/> <img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.maddruid.com\/Graphics\/reusable\/the__earthinc.png?w=580\" alt=\"Mohd Hafiz Noor Shams. Some rights reserved\" \/><\/p>\n<p>p\/s \u2014 as the dust settled, better estimation. It is over 20,000:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>News services estimated that the rally on Saturday, which was broken up by thousands of police officers using tear gas and water cannons, drew about 20,000 protesters, making it the largest demonstration in two years. [<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2009\/08\/03\/world\/asia\/03malaysia.html\" target=\"_blank\">Malaysia Cracks Down on Protests<\/a><\/em>. Thomas Fuller. New York Times. August 2 2009]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>And so, Kuala Lumpur is again the center of a struggle for liberty. Estimating the number of protesters against ISA is hard but Twitter, specifically from the accounts of The Edge and The Malaysian Insider may be helpful. 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